Here is a link where they talk a
little about these guitars: http://www.fenderforum.com/forum.html?db=&topic_number=534359&lastpost=2005-12-1401:38:37
Some Communication Regarding These
Guitars.
Hopefully More Info will be found
Hi Rob. Yes I have similar questions about my
guitar. I visited many music shops
asking people about it. One individual
seemed to recognize the guitar immediately and told me about it being made in
the Ibanez factory. He said that in the
late 80's Fender desired to upgrade the quality status of the squier name and made some high end models for a while. He and others also said that there are a few
massive guitar factories in the world that most of the major manufactures
use. These upgraded Squiers
happened to be created at the same location Ibanez used. I will give you some communications that I
have had because of my guitars presence on the web. Others have had similar questions also. I have one of my own: where was your guitar when you found/bought
it? How much was the purchase
price? (Was it a
"friendly" deal where you got it for nearly nothing, or did
you buy it at a store?) also, I have never heard of
the headstock refered
to as "sharktooth" which is a good
description, but where did you get that term? Thanks!
Here is the communication I
had....hope it helps!
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(Part 3)
actually found a couple of things. It looks identical and it is probably a Squier HM3 model.
The only weird thing is that every thing on the web about an HM3 is
white. Here is a site with one. This guy named his HM3 "Icewing."
Scroll down till you find it.
http://www.altrion.org/guitars.html There are two reviews of an HM3 on Harmony
Central, both are white. One believes
his guitar was made in
86-87 which
doesn't seem to make sense with our guitars.
I found one for sale last night and it states in the ad that it was
Fender's answer to the Ibanez Sabre. You are right it looks more like an Ibanez
than a Fender. http://www.smitsparts.com/gfs.htm. Here is a pic of an
Ibanez Sabre, look at the 540 models. http://www.smitsparts.com/gfs.htm.
As
for being made in an Ibanez factory, I believe that is somewhat true but a
little off. Almost all asian made guitars are made by two
companies. Most guitar companies license
their guitars through those two companies.
Samick is one and it makes Epiphones. The other is Cort
and they make Fenders, Ibanez's and at one point BC Rich's. Most likely any of these Ibanez's and Squiers were made in the same Cort facility. All
that I have written here is about all the knowledge I can come by from the
web. You actually got an owner's manual,
I wasn't so fortunate. I downloaded one
from the Squier site and it is like yours, completely
useless in terms of specifics. My
original buying price for that guitar was $450 when it was new. I would hate to think that I spent $450 on
pretty plywood but my knowledge about guitar woods fifteen years ago was
nothing. I read somewhere that the Squier II's were made of plywood
so hopefully that means that ours was made of something better. I have seen Squier
HM's hold their value pretty well. Most
people who own them love them and I certainly love the feel and the sound of
mine. This site has a few HM strats and you will notice that they are a little similar
but still different. They list a gray
one like the one above that looks like ours.
They call it a Squier HM and they have it listed
for $400.
Anyway, hope this helps and if I
find out more I will let you know.
Thanks,
Paul
(Part 2)
On Sun, 11 Dec 22:32:42 -0800 "Lavath" <lavath@hotmail.com> writes:
> WOW! I am shocked and amazed
that ANYONE else has this guitar...(well
> not
too much since fender is a massively huge company many must have
> been sold) But still I am
shocked and amazed that you have this guitar
> and
have sent me pictures of it!
> I have maintained that you can
find ANYTHING on the www, however after
> searching for a few years... (of course on and off again) I was NEVER
> able
to find a single picture of these guitars, MUCH LESS any
> information
or specs. It was not from a lack of
trying, as I have
> visited music
stores with the guitar to ask about it. That is how I
> found out that It
> *supposedly* was made in an
Ibanez factory, I guess that jives, since
> these
guitars do have a decidedly un-fenderish quality
about the
> pointed head and rounded body
... Its just a few peoples word on this,
> I have not been able to get any
solid information, nor information
> contradicting this. I have all original paperwork and tags
> unfortunately
the user manual says "SQUIER AND SQUIER II GUITARS AND
> BASSES" and as such is
woefully generic.
> The only
> hint
that the manual is intended for my guitar is where it states:
>
> "Locking Tremolo System
> Some models have a Floyd Rose
licensed locking tremolo system that is
> somewhat different from
standard Floyd Rose systems...." and describes
> how to use
said systems."
> I was thinking; what about
disassembling the guitar, could you
> discover the method of
construction; could you see the grain of the
> wood,
or conglormiate used?
I wonder if simply taking the inspection
> covers off would give a cross
section? I have done this before, but
> it has
been years and I don't remember what I saw, except the springs
> for
the tremolo. What about taking the neck
off? Perhaps you would
> get a good look...
> I have also done searches based
on serial number to no avail. I
> suggest that contacting Fender, and Ibanez may yield results. If you
> find anything PLEASE let me
know!
>
>
>
(PART 1)
-----Original Message-----
> From: Paul
> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 9:06
PM
> To: Lavath@hotmail.com
> Subject: Your 1989 Squier
>
> I happen to have that same
guitar minus the cool paint job. I
bought
> mine
new about fifteen years ago. I have been
trying to find out some
> info
on this guitar, especially the body wood.
I have seen guesses
> anywhere
from plywood to alder. I hope it's not
plywood and I would
> be shocked if it were Alder my
guess is basswood. Do you know
> anything
about the specs?
> Also, do
> you actually
know what model Squier this is?
> Most people seem to guess an HM
model but it doesn't quite fit an HM
> that I
have seen at least in the terms of the pickups.
Again, any
> info
would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rob
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006
6:25 AM
To: Lavath@hotmail.com
Subject: Squier/Ibanez
Guitar pictures
Hey I found the pictures of your
red/blue crackle squier on google.
http://www.thatmetalbox.com/squier/index.htm
I bought the exact same guitar used the
other day and can't seem to figure out anything about it. I know mine is a 1989 from the serial number,
but I was wondering if you had any proof of it being made at ibanez?
I'm looking for anything you might
have, since you bought it new, be it a series, version, model, etc. I've seen similar guitars in an HM (heavy
metal) series from the late 80s, but
can't find anything officially about this guitar with the sharktooth
headstock and thinline/rounded body.
Let me know if you know anything or
have other links as to where it might have originated and what specific model
it is.
Thanks,
Rob
